God Bless Ralph Nader

Because he wants to salvage American democracy and help Americans, Ralph Nader is running for president again.  He deserves the support of all Americans that see themselves as progressives, dissidents, independents, and patriots who want to remove the stranglehold of the two-party plutocracy on our political system.

When it comes to being an honest, proven and trustworthy change agent, Nader is the gold standard.  So why are so many Democrats going ballistic and spewing hate towards Nader?

They are in denial about both Obama and Clinton.  Both owe much to the corporate and business world that Nader has waged war against for decades.  Like Clinton, Obama has taken huge amounts of money from several business sectors.  Both refuse to advocate a single payer universal health care system that Nader champions; this protects the enormously profitable health insurance industry.

They are crazy-glued to their misplaced blame of Nader for the Bush victory in 2000, even though several other indisputable factors also explain Gore's loss, including his poor campaign that was unable to deliver his home state of Tennessee, the incompetence of the Democratic Party to stop the Supreme Court's disgraceful action, and the cowardly behavior of the Democratic Party over many decades that kept them from working to replace the Electoral College with the popular vote.  And rather than blame Nader for the Iraq war, the Democrats have only themselves to blame, not only for authorizing the war but for many assaults on the Constitution that Bush has gotten away with.

They fear the public becoming more aware of the many policy positions of Obama and Clinton that are downright asinine, in contrast to Nader's sound positions.  For example, Nader is against nuclear power, while Obama has had a very cozy relationship with powerful people in that industry.  And Nader wants a carbon pollution tax to combat global warming, that neither Obama nor Clinton favor.  And no surprise, Nader makes the case for impeaching Bush and Cheney that Obama and Clinton are too cowardly to embrace.  He also straightforwardly supports total public financing of political campaigns - the only way to rid our political system of corrupt forces.  Meanwhile, Obama is backing away from his written commitment to using public financing for the general election.

They fear Nader siphoning enough votes away from the Democratic nominee to make McCain president, despite Nader having little campaign money compared to the Democratic nominee.  What happened to all that yes-we-can confidence?  Do the Democrats think that all those people who have gone nuts over Obama will finally see the light and reject their political messiah?  This is only plausible if the Democratic bigwigs and pundits really know that Nader's positions and arguments (certainly not his slick rhetoric or personality) have the capability of breaking through the hope-hysteria of the army of Obamatons.

They fear Nader being persuasive enough to move the Democratic nominee to the left (more populist and progressive) and making it more difficulty in beating McCain and his appeal to independents.  Democrats prefer the centrist bait and switch approach to sucker in voters and then surprise them after the election.

They fear the public seeing a truth-telling, independent candidate not driven by a thirst for political power.  Nader is not running for president again because of ego or some deep ambition to be president, but rather out of a sense of obligation and responsibility to serve the public and the nation, as he has done for many decades.  He is the only credible opponent to corporate special interests.  It is not a matter of exercising his constitutional right, it is a matter of being a truer populist and progressive than the Democratic nominee.

The Los Angeles Times editorialized in support of Nader: "The Democrats and Republicans may believe your vote belongs to one or the other of them before it belongs to you, but they are wrong. More choices among candidates mean more opportunities for you to make your views known in an election."  Nader said. "It's real political bigotry by the two major parties who have locked up the system with these ballot access obstructions against more voices and choices and giving voters a chance to have their free choice of candidates."

How sad that Democrats show such little respect for a patriotic dissident like Nader, who has always been a troublemaker fighting for ordinary Americans.

In many ways, the Nader candidacy is not about him becoming the best president possible, but rather in pushing any Democrat who becomes president to be a far better one by serving the public interest in the noble Nader tradition.  A vote for Nader is always a vote for rebooting American democracy.  All the nasty talk from Democrats about Nader insults we the people more than Nader.

[Contact Joel S. Hirschhorn through www.delusionaldemocracy.com.]



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Re: God Bless Ralph Nader (none / 0)

I like Nader.  I respect his right to run.  I do NOT blame him for 2000.

But he has run twice before with minimal success.  I can't imagine this time will be any different.


No way. No how. No McCain.
by freedom78 on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 02:15:26 PM EST

he ran in 1996 (none / 0)

and got about 1 percent of the vote. I believe he ran as a write-in in 1992 as well.

Just saying.


See if Saxby Chambliss is helping you.
by desmoinesdem on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 02:25:37 PM EST
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Re: God Bless Ralph Nader (none / 0)

I agree with you completely.

Also, I think that voters in swing states are likely more strategic than they were in 2000. While Nader will likely pull a percent or so, I suspect that in tightly contested states people on the Left will think long and hard before voting for him.

by PhilFR on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 02:47:49 PM EST
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Re: God Bless Ralph Nader (none / 0)

This is Ralph Nader's web site thought about Sen. Obama's candidacy. Click Here to Learn  


by Safe at Home on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 02:54:31 PM EST
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Re: God Bless Ralph Nader (none / 0)

Interesting.  I can't imagine how anyone who's watched the recent debates or heard Obama's recent remarks could possibly argue that he's "running away from his opposition to the war."


No way. No how. No McCain.
by freedom78 on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 03:20:02 PM EST
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Re: God Bless Ralph Nader (none / 0)

Great idea: "Maybe Obama could make Nader the head of consumer advocacy when he is president."


Obama's Pop. Vote LEAD = 600K | Clinton & McCain = WAR Authorizers
by NeuvoLiberal on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 02:19:50 PM EST

all Nader can accomplish this year (none / 0)

is screwing up Ed Fallon's chances to beat Leonard Boswell in the primary for IA-03. Boswell's people were already using Fallon's support for Nader in 2000 against him weeks ago.

Every day that Nader is in the news, it's a bigger problem for Fallon.


See if Saxby Chambliss is helping you.
by desmoinesdem on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 02:26:46 PM EST

Nader a progressive ? (none / 0)

Nader is nothing more than a nasty piece of filth.  Let him run though, if he wants; nobody cares.


by silver spring on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 02:34:09 PM EST

Delusional (none / 0)

Is your website really called Delusional Democracy?  Seems quite appropriate.


by dcg2 on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 02:43:28 PM EST

Re: God Bless Ralph Nader (none / 0)

Ralph Nader is a joke at this point, and I say that as someone who considered him a hero growing up.  When he said there was no difference between Gore and Bush in 2000 I thought he was wrong but I at least saw where he was coming from.  To make the same argument eight  years later, when we've all seen just how wrong that pronouncement was, is simply unforgiveable.  Especially when both of the two remaining D contenders are running on the most progressive platform in recent memory.  

From Iraq and Iran to the Supreme Court (John Paul Stevens is now in his late 80s and Justice Ginsburg's health is always a concern), this election will have a huge and longlasting impact.  That Nader apparently doesn't think any of that matters, or at least is less important than his own vanity, is horrific.  Anyone that supports him at this point needs to explain why it doesn't matter whether the next POTUS is committed to exiting Iraq, avoiding an attack on Iran, passing universal health care, and appointing qualified and progressive Judges to the federal bench.  That's an explanation that I would LOVE to see.  


by HSTruman on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 02:43:38 PM EST

Re: God Bless Ralph Nader (none / 0)

100,000 votes in FL in 2000, and he is not to blame for a Trilion dollar war, 3000 americans and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis killed.

There is NO difference between Dems and GOP.
Yeah righ, so I am voting for McCain.


by rolnitzky on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 02:44:33 PM EST

Re: God Bless Ralph Nader (none / 0)

Actually, in my opinion, the ONLY reason Nader is running is ego. It's the only thing he does. There was a time when he did some really useful work, but now, as far as I can tell, he does nothing at all in between elections. He was always an arrogant a--hole - I was told that by more than one person who worked for him back in his glory days as a consumer advocate, before he became the Harold Stassen of the Left - but at least he was an arrogant a--hole with a purpose beyond himself. You can't say that anymore. There is absolutely no reason for him to run except to make mischief and feed his over-inflated sense of self-importance. Go to hell, Ralph.


Rules for Life: Do not annoy others; Do not be too easily annoyed.
by Not the only Dem in KS on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 02:44:36 PM EST

Hey (none / 0)

Nader has every right to run.

He's welcome to run.

I just hope we on Democratic Party supporting blogs aren't forced to hear from ALL 10-15K people that will be be voting for him this fall.


by zonk on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 02:49:05 PM EST

DAMN RALPH NADER TO HELL!!! (none / 0)

Ralph Nader is jhis own worst enemy.

Fuck him.

I'm an Obama supporter but I'd drag myself over broken glass even with two broken legs to vote for Hillary Clinton, even if she steals the thing at the convetion by locking the Obama delegation and the entire DNC leadership in a bathroom to do it!!!


Bill Foster would agree, Barack Obama has coat tails.
by Walt Starr on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 02:54:37 PM EST

Re: DAMN RALPH NADER TO HELL!!! (none / 0)

There are two choices in Novemeber. Whomsoever wins the Democratic nomination (regardless of how that happens) and McCain.

Why would I vote for McBush? The nominee is my candidate.

Personally, if court cases and back room deals are what it takes for Hillary Clinton to take the nomination, then she deserves it because ti was by using whatever means necessary to win that allowed Bush in during the 2000 election. Quite frankly, she demonstrates the fight that should have been demonstrated in 2000.


Bill Foster would agree, Barack Obama has coat tails.
by Walt Starr on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 03:46:58 PM EST
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This is mean (none / 0)

And seriously - I do hate piling on Nader.  I truly bear no ill will towards the man...

But this cartoon on Nader's running mate search is pretty good.  If the link doesn't drop you in the right place, it's #15 in the slide show.


by zonk on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 02:54:40 PM EST

Re: This is mean (none / 0)

But thousands of people who lost their loved ones do bear ill will.

He gave us 8 years of Bush.


by rolnitzky on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 04:01:48 PM EST
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Re: This is mean (none / 0)

It's gotta be the goldfish.


Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama for President! Beat McCain!
by Alex on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 04:41:11 PM EST
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Re: God Bless Ralph Nader (none / 0)

Monkeys will fly out of Sen. Obama's Butt before that happens. Get a Grip Slick!


by Safe at Home on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 03:00:14 PM EST

i think nader should only be able to run (none / 0)

on what he's done in between his last run.

which is nothing.


BHO/HRC 08
by omar little on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 03:03:03 PM EST

he could at least (none / 0)

not put his name on the ballot in swing states


BHO/HRC 08
by omar little on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 03:33:09 PM EST

Re: he could at least (none / 0)

If Gore won, nobody would have remembered Nader, since he helped defeat him, he thinks he is something.
Of course he will run in swinf states, that's the whole point to make the Dem lose as they are "just like the Republicans"
by rolnitzky on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 04:03:57 PM EST
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We only make Nader an issue by demonizing him (none / 0)

I have never voted for Nader(it's sad that we need to put up a disclaimer to make it clear that we can support someone's right to run even if we are not a voter for that person).

Yes, Nader is stubborn. Sometimes he is not even reasonable. And he is not perfect. So what? He still says things that must be heard even if I do not agree with some of them. Overall, his message is in essence, true. Of course the Democrats are better than the Republicans. But overall, how much of a difference? And why did the  Bush presidency become the worst Presidency in history?
Here's why and none of these issues except for the first one have anything to do with Bush

  1. Bush is indeed the worst President(but did the Presidency have to be this bad because Presidents come and go, and it is up to the other party to minimize the damage).
  2. The DEmocrats failed to capture a majority in the senate and house until 2006. And even then, they had to sell out and coopt Lieberman to make that majority. What has happened since then? The Democrats were unable to offer a strong unified front against Bush to offer strong resistance to his desgtructive policies. Not enough oversight on some blatant violation of ethics and honesty in the Bush government. Is Nader responsible for this?
  3. Iraq war. Yes, the Democrats on average were clearly more prone to opposing the war. But overall, there were enough divisive cowardly forces within the party to make any opposition almost isolated. This was the biggest blunder of the Bush administration and the DEmocrats failed spectacularly in opposing the war. And even now, they are still one step behind. Nader never supported the war, while DEmocrats did. So why not show more anger to the people who fell in line for the biggest blunder of the last 30 years?
  4. Lousiana lost the Governership to the Republicans despite Bush's stupendous bungling of Katrina. But what Katrina also showed is the minority population was badly served for decades by  both parties in that state. The Democratic Party should be ashamed they lost that state after the Jena incident and the Katrina disaster instead of burying the REpublicans.
  5. Our schools. Can we say our schools are really that much better in Democratic Party strongholds across the country? I live in Atlanta and I do not see the public schools in the democratic party controlled areas to be better governed than the public schools in the right wing nutso areas other than the evolution topic(which is one reason I will never ever live in Cobb County, GA if those republican morons continue to peddle their anti evolution crap).
  6. Pork projects: Both parties are guilty of this, though the republicans are taking it to new levels with the Bush friendly contractors at the government level. Still DEmocrats need to strive to present a clearer picture to the public.
  7. How the hell do you not find enough stuff to impeach Bush and his cronies after all these years? Is Nader resaponsible for the cowardice of house democrats? Except for Feingold and a few others, people in the party are still hesitant to attack when needed.


by Pravin on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 08:20:52 PM EST

Re: God Bless Ralph Nader (none / 0)

Ralph Nader is like leap year. Comes around every 4 years and you won't see him again for another 4 years. This election is too important to waste any votes on Ralph Nader. Ego Maniac!


by victoryfordems on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 08:35:18 PM EST


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